i'm gonna download equip slowly so prob add more to the post if i get a chance... or not if i dont get a chance?
this is in bits though so i thought i'd start downloading the elective i went to cos i was at twilight session and so elective is before main talks.
the electives this year all sounded pretty good. it came down to "confessions of a shopaholic" or "fineprint of feminism"...
decided on feminism in the end... i'm not sure why... just wanted to hear claire smith's take on it. also i guess been thinking through things like submission and authority lately.
so this is kinda a summary of the talk:
history of feminism:
eg womens' lib movement, gender equality and lately the ambiguity of sexuality and gender
some good points of feminism:
- social justice (God uses feminism to get this even though feminism does not recognise God's agenda) eg. rape in marriage condemned, domestic violence recognised and condemned
- gender based inequality can be contrary to God's purpose - God creates man and woman in His image.
Feminism's warped view of God
- trying to feminise the devine - not God the Father but "parent", "mother"
- rejecting the bible as it was written by men and is 'patriarchal'
- re-ordering the trinity - they dont like the nature of authority and submission in the relationships within the trinity so they say that the submission of the Son to the Father's will was cultural and one-off for the purpose of salvation. There are no implications for today and therefore authority and submission or created order arent relevant concepts today. [i have to think about this point a little more]
- Jesus was a man - they use some parts of the bible to accuse him of chauvinism.
Some biblical truths
- God the 'Father'!! only God can name God and Jesus refers to God the Father.
- God made gender - it's not incidental or a handicap. Man and woman were made in the image of God and gender is an essential part of our identity. Gender not an indication of worth as Jesus died for all.
- Jesus shows countercultural respect for women and their role in his ministry.
Cultural concepts
- the rise of careerism and identity that is found in what we do
- rejection of gender or sexuality
- sexual revolution - the pill and women free to be sexually promiscuous
- changing of views of sex - about power, and self not giving to the other person
- society focus on self autonomy
the bottom line:
Can you be a Christian and a feminist?
I think not. Jesus says anybody who wants to be great must be a servant. Jesus lost his rights to serve and save those he loved. Feminism seeks power and is self-seeking. It's focus is contrary to Jesus' and contrary to God's plan for humanity.
.... well that's what i got out of that elective... was really good to think about it (although i wouldnt have called myself a feminist before). i have a better understanding of feminism.
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